Which document should be pointed out to a holocaust denier?

We have the written speech, authorized by Himmler

1: The Einsatzgruppen

In total, some 24 Einsatzgruppen officers were captured and put on trial. All of them either confessed or just refused to say anything. None of these men disputed what they did in the least. Another 4 Einsatzgruppen leaders were captured by other nations and put on separate trials and again, they confessed.

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These massacre reports, called OSR reports, are just 1 part. The Einsatzgruppen commissioned a map that detailed how many regions were “Jewish-free” for Hitler and the rest of the Nazi high command. Thankfully this map survived the war and exists today.

A huge part of the Holocaust was the Einsatzgruppen. This was a division of the SS that went from town to town massacring Jews and other civilians. In a short period (1941 and part of 1942) they killed 2 million people, 1.3 million of whom were Jewish.

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The problem though is that Holocaust denial is a political movement, not a historical theory. These people are interested in spreading conspiracy theories and antisemitism, not truth. Show them a witness, a confession, a document, or a picture and they will do whatever mental gymnastics are required to continue in their willful ignorance.

I could list 10 more but at some point, it's a dead horse that I killed 3 years ago. Now will these things cause a denier to tuck tail and admit defeat? No! Not even close. Most likely they will respond with a picture of the 1948 Jewish World Almanac, the Auschwitz plaque, and some clipped news headlines.

2: Himmler’s Posen Speech

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First here is a map that shows the site of every mass gave and massacre. It not only shows the location but also lists the witnesses and even has recorded interviews with said witnesses. At most of these sites, historians have found mass graves or clear signs of mass murder (depopulation, destruction of civilian infrastructure).

We have witnesses who heard the speech and testified about what they saw

Why bring them up? The evidence is easy to show and understand. It’s enough evidence to make anyone who disputes it look like a racist version of flat-earthers.

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Himmler, the top of the SS, did speak about the Holocaust. In 1943 he stated that the Nazis were exterminating the Jews and detailed the actions of the Holocaust.

The sad truth is that nothing really will help. With many subjects like Ancient Rome, you get a lot of people who research it for fun. On the flip side, you have the Holocaust which nobody ever wants to really research at all. This means that it is hard to challenge deniers because they are hard to identify and who the heck knows about Einsatzgruppen OSR reports? I saw it as a challenge to help expose ignorant people to real history and also help rational people see through the lies of denialism. How wrong I was.

Often there is this myth about the Nazis documenting everything. In reality, they documented some things but painstakingly avoided documenting the Holocaust. That is except for the Einsatzgruppen who documented their every action. They detail their massacres like a unit would detail ammunition count and we still have these reports. The sites of these documented massacres correspond with mass graves. Here is a compiled list of all of them.

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Then we get to confessions. Otto Ohlendorf was a Gruppenfuher in the Einsatzgruppen that was captured. He was put on trial for his crimes and was allowed to hire a lawyer and conduct his own defense. He was very open about everything he did in the Einsatzgruppen, insisting he was following orders. This is him, a man of pure evil responsible for the deaths of perhaps 90,000 civilians.

So what document should be pointed out? As I stated it won’t matter but you can help prevent people from falling into the lies of deniers. Here are a few of my favorites.

We have a recording of this speech and historians, experts, and people who knew Himmler have verified the recording as legitimate

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What these things do is show how much evidence the Holocaust has behind it. Deniers maintain their the Nazis never undertook any campaign to exterminate the Jews and this above disputes that.

Often deniers really like to mention that Hitler and other Nazis never brought up the Holocaust. This is entirely false but the Nazis intentionally covered up the Holocaust and most certainly did not publically discuss it.